Madoka Magica ep 10: Kindness Cruelty – Will such a devotion guarantee happiness?


Puella Magi wish only for themselves

This is a fact in the world of PMMM and Homura, despite being the cold character that we have seen so far, is no different, being bound by this same reason for becoming a Puella Magi. But I guess that anyone who have watched this episode would agree that her story would be the greatest tragedy. The greatest mistake. The greatest devotion. The ultimate sacrifice driven by love. Hell, if people were moved by that movie, “The Passion of the Christ”, I could imagine a lot of people rolling with tears if SHAFT decided to turn this episode into an hour long movie detailing Homura’s experiences per time loop. Her joy and hope of seeing Madoka every time and her despair as she learns more of the truth of being a Puella Magi.

It would've been better if things ended this way. No greater glory than to die with a friend on the battlefield

Puella Magi turning into a witch?! Homura experienced it painfully first-hand by seeing her best friend turn into one. Can Puella Magi who turned into witches be saved? The fact that Homura went back through time after Maodka became one is proof that there is no salvation when you become a witch. Does Kyubey care to the girls who become Puella Magi at all? The obvious answer is no. Even in Homura’s story, we get to see how Kyubey slowly reveals himself. In the first timeline, Kyubey acts as the “cute wish giver”. Sales talking little girls to form a contract with him. On the second iteration, Kyubey reveals the truth about Puella magi and witches, shocking Homura in the process. In the third, Homura tries to warn the rest about the truth of Kyubey but nobody believed her except in the end where Madoka, finally realizing the truth that Homura possessed, brutally gave her two wishes: “To prevent her stupid self from becoming a Puella Magi in the next instance” and “To prevent her from becoming a witch”. In the fourth iteration, we learn of Kyubey’s existence as the incubator along with the existence of other clones of itself. I wonder, how things would end this time, in this fifth iteration? Her wish to protect Madoka is so vague that there are so many things that fall under that category. There’s no specific goal to achieve and this makes it depressing, from the viewer’s point of view.

Perhaps, there's no greater joy to Madoka for Homura to deliver the Coup de Grace but for Homura, this tragedy will be forever burned in her soul

Does preventing Madoka to become a Puella Magi the ONLY method to protect her or was Homura simply moved by the request of the third iteration? Besides, if Madoka would never become a Puella Magi this time or in any instance, there is no guarantee that she won’t be killed by the Walpurgis. Hence, from the way I’m seeing it, the only way to protect Madoka is by protecting everyone and having all five Puella Magi (including Madoka) assembled to defeat Walpurgis. That way, Madoka’s Soul Gem won’t be corrupted critically and by using Kyouko’s method to harvest Grief Seeds, all of them will be saved. Of course, the forums also suggest various means such as having Homura gather Grief Seeds from each time loop or Homura going back in time to assist her previous iterations. While it may sound like a good idea, the notion of time travelling for this anime is never accurate. We can even say that Homura isn’t actually going back in time but is experiencing a different timeline much like how Trunks from DragonBall Z caused Cell to appear in the timeline he went to. there is no accuracy. There are no guarantees. Homura will be bound by this cruelty of fate and of kindness until Madoka finds a way to break the system. Why Madoka? because she is the Haruhi that is at the center of everything despite not knowing anything at all. She is Homura’s raison d’etre, the greatest Puella Magi to equally match the power of a Walpurgis and, upon defeating it, the next to become one. I guess Kyon had seen better days because he had connections with Nagato, Mikuru, and even Koizumi to prevent and fix up Haruhi’s mess compared to Homura to only have herself, her wits, her devotion, her love.


Speculah that’s right on the mark for this episode:
1) Homura was inspired by Madoka
2) Seeing Madoka suffer as a Puella Magi, she wished to save her/protect her
3) They are all in some kind of Endless Eight with Homura as its Kyon.
4) Homura goes back in time to correct things
5) Homura IS the most tragic heroine from all of them

Speculah that this episode gunned down:
1) Madoka is the one true Puella Magi that is the embodiment of hope blah blah (this is actually true in the first timeline)

Other notes:

1) Despite each iteration being different, in the sense that there are a different contracted Puella Magi at the start, it seems that all of the characters are bound to share a similar fate:

– Sayaka WILL become a witch because of being heartbroken
– Hitomi may probably steal Kamijou from each iteration (damn bitch!!)
– Kyouko and Sayaka will always be at odds against each other
– Homura will always have bad eyesight (except when she healed it)
– Mami will be an effective team player and will always die (not turn into a witch)
– Madoka will be the greatest Puella Magi as well as the greatest witch that is meant to destroy the world
– Kyubey is an apathetic asshole

2) The existence of a Walpurgis could mean that there was a Puella Magi that might be as strong as Madoka before who simply fell to despair or this is an event where existing witches would merge and become such an entity

3) What if Madoka wished for everyone to be revived and have the Soul Gems of all Puella Magi not become corrupted whenever they use their powers? Won’t that break the system of Puella Magi turning into witches?

4) What if the revelation of Puella Magi turning to witches was caused by Homura forming a contract? In the first instance, Madoka died and didn’t become a witch while in the second, Madoka transformed into one. But to contradict this theory and myself, The first instance Madoka died instantly and before her death, she told Homura how proud she was that she was able to save her and that it was worth being a Puella Magi while on the second, Madoka was barely alive, being able to talk Homura by then… Did she have any regrets during her final moments? So strong that her Soul Gem transformed into a Grief Seed?

** This episode is overwhelming that it made me realize that I never actually watched an anime legend unfold in my very eyes. The episodes of Code Geass and Death Note that I experienced was almost a year or so after they aired but being able to experience a legendary anime as it aired is such a great feeling =)

** Props to Chiwa Saito and Yuuki Aoi for the excellent job delivering all the emotions and drama in this episode. They deserve an award dammit!!

** Hope the people of Japan managed to recover their losses and casualties after the earthquake and tsunami yesterday. While i’m more concerned on Seiyuu survivors and the Anime industry in general (since I’m a big douche) I’d still hope that there were still a lot of the who lived through yesterday’s tragedy.








File References:

Vid images from [gg]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_10_(XviD_AnimeSenshi).avi
Madoka Magica theories from ANN Forums and AnimeSuki
Cover and other images from Pixiv/*booru

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24 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Valence
    Mar 12, 2011 @ 19:11:37

    Homura in her first timeline kind of reminds me of Bakemonogatari’s Tsubasa, what with the glasses and braided twintails.

    I’m still kind of curious how they know when the Walpurgis Night appears at all. Is it because Homura knows when it will come because she knows about it (past timelines) or is it because of something else?

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  2. baka~
    Mar 12, 2011 @ 19:25:31

    From the first timeline where Mami mentioned Walpurgis Night, it seems to be an annual(?) event that’s meant to occur in this series. Even Kyouko of the current timeline wasn’t surprised when Homura offered an alliance in order to defeat it

    and your remark reminded me of this image… Talk about the transition from Tsubasa to Senjogahara 😀

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  3. Tsuki
    Mar 12, 2011 @ 23:48:26

    I’ve been wondering why Madoka hasn’t tried using her wish to completely destroy the entire witch/mahou shoujo system in it’s entirety.

    The major difference between the previous Madokas and the current one is that our current Madoka became fully aware of the Mahou Shoujo system in it’s entirety before contracting with Kyuubei.

    Now that she is aware of how Mahou Shoujo function, couldn’t she logically just wish that her soul gem will never be tainted or corrupted? Or maybe wish that Witches can never exist? I mean, you would have to be aware of unintended consequences of such wishes (such as an uncorruptable Soul Gem, which is the equivalent to immortality), but that would be much preferred over the current foreseeable future.

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  4. baka~
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 00:08:03

    Well, that is true. However, let us consider what the 4th iteration of Madoka did, the one who defeated the Walpurgis in a single shot. What did she wish for? Regardless of whatever that Madoka’s wish was, it may have left an impression to Homura that all instances of Madoka who existed may wish for the same thing and that wish won’t probably be something along the lines of destroying the Puella Magi system or wishing that all witches are gone. This is an assumption though. Who knows, the 5th iteration of Madoka may wish differently, possibly ending the loop of the Puella Magi system and giving everyone a happy ending.

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  5. Vavrick
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 11:37:34

    Maybe her wish was to “save the world” or something along those lines, so when she became a witch it backfire and now she will to destroy it, i don`t know, it make sense to me.

    Again, sorry for the bad english.

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    • baka~
      Mar 13, 2011 @ 13:59:18

      your English is fine 😀

      and yes, it would be very ironic, much like Sayaka wishing for Kamijo to be healed only to elope with another woman :p

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  6. Keiri
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 11:57:37

    baka~, you should have watched this at home. This episode deserved manly tears! XD

    I guess that anyone who have watched this episode would agree that her story would be the greatest tragedy. The greatest mistake. The greatest devotion. The ultimate sacrifice driven by love.

    Character evolution at its finest, I have to say. I have never seen so much fantastic development all crammed into a single episode before. Absolutely love the unexpectedly stark contrast in character Homura displayed when she started out in her original timeline and how her meek personality changed over time into the badass lone wolf she has become now. It was brilliant how they portrayed that transformation of hers which was shaped by the tragedies she experienced. She’s one of those few characters who makes “despair” look oh so dangerously delicious. 🙂

    Her wish to protect Madoka is so vague that there are so many things that fall under that category. There’s no specific goal to achieve and this makes it depressing, from the viewer’s point of view … Does preventing Madoka to become a Puella Magi the ONLY method to protect her or was Homura simply moved by the request of the third iteration? Besides, if Madoka would never become a Puella Magi this time or in any instance, there is no guarantee that she won’t be killed by the Walpurgis. Hence, from the way I’m seeing it, the only way to protect Madoka is by protecting everyone and having all five Puella Magi (including Madoka) assembled to defeat Walpurgis.

    Pertaining to this, as much as I enjoy witnessing Homura’s evolution and continuous fall into desolation, I’m having trouble as usual in picking out what the basis behind her raison d’être i.e. Madoka is. We know she cares deeply for Madoka and was inspired by her, but her feelings towards Madoka appears to be almost biasedly powerful in a sense. Homura was rescued and trained by both Madoka and Mami at first. They were in the same team of Puella Magis for almost every iteration. She was classmates with Madoka and Sayaka for every iteration. As for Kyoko, we know they have always been more as partners in the witch hunting business rather than friends. My question is, why are Homura’s feelings for Madoka so strong such that she made the latter her only priority during the first iteration? Homura could have phrased her wish such that she would live through each reset until she has successfully prevented Walpurgis Night and saved everyone. She also fought alongside Mami after all. Why did she focus on saving Madoka each time but left the others to their fate? Could it be that everything was dictated by fate? Or was it because she prioritized Madoka because Madoka was the only one who believed Homura and stuck by her side i.e. the concept of best friends? Also I couldn’t help but noticed a certain tiny loophole – she knew Sayaka would turn into a witch as a consequence of her becoming a Puella Magi. Why did she say “That was my fault. I should’ve watched her too, not just you.” to Madoka in Episode 5 when she already knew Sayaka was going to accept the Puella Magi contract and turn into a witch? Well, not ratting out on Homura because I do honestly think what she’s doing represents the greatest embodiment of love, devotion and sacrifice but these things just piqued my curiosity. ^^

    Who knows, the 5th iteration of Madoka may wish differently, possibly ending the loop of the Puella Magi system and giving everyone a happy ending.

    I wonder what Madoka is capable of should she wish to become “God” like Kyuubey suggested before. What capabilities would she be bestowed with? And yes, if there are any restrictions as to what kind of wish Kyuubey can and cannot grant. If Madoka wished to break the Puella Magi system, wouldn’t that effectively end the Kyuubey alien race’s manipulation of their world? Or Kyuubey doesn’t care and would simply find another world to exploit?

    Right… Now to get back to texting and mailing people in Tokyo. Am relieved the folks dear to me are safe but yeah, praying for everyone else in the worse hit areas of the earthquake :(. JAPAN, GANBATTE!!

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    • baka~
      Mar 13, 2011 @ 14:34:58

      baka~, you should have watched this at home. This episode deserved manly tears! XD

      I know… Having to rewatch this episode to take the screencaps is hard enough ;_;

      and it will be really weird if my sister comes in my room (knocking isn’t common here) and saw me crying T_T

      She’s one of those few characters who makes “despair” look oh so dangerously delicious

      Despite all those experiences, it’s very surprising how she’s able to maintain her sanity, not becoming a witch. Then again, I guess that’s the irony of it. Her objective of protecting Madoka will fail if she becomes a witch, triggering the loop again. No matter how you look at it, it’s the ultimate loop with the weight being too much for a little girl

      Well, not ratting out on Homura because I do honestly think what she’s doing represents the greatest embodiment of love, devotion and sacrifice but these things just piqued my curiosity. ^^

      If I were to interpret Homura’s actions (since I kinda understand what she feels), for her, Kaname Madoka is her hero. The one who gave her hope. Not just as a Puella Magi but as a person who accepted her despite all her flaws. This was reflected by how the other students’ point of view of Homura changed over time. They were excited since she was a transfer student but when they learn of her weak constitution, they simply felt pity for her whilst Kaname encouraged her right from the start (she mentioned that Homura should act cool ’cause her name is) and probably helped her get over her suicidal tendencies after defeating the witch. Also, that last GAR line that Madoka gave before she died with the Walpurgis may have triggered it all. For some, the reality that one’s savior is gone may be too much to bear. Just how can Homura continue knowing that her pillar of support just shattered? If Kyubey wasn’t there, she may have moved on, taking a bit of her time but that little devil just had to sales talk her during her moment of despair. The offer was tempting and so she agreed to become a Puella Magi to save her.

      As for her relationship with the rest like Mami and Sayaka, perhaps, if Mami didn’t bind her in episode 3, she was able to save her. They were comrades after all. As for Sayaka, I guess that despite knowing that she became a witch in the previous iterations, she was unable to figure out how this would turn out in the current timeline as she is monitoring Madoka. Like that scene where Sayaka confronts Kamijou’s despair only for Kyubey to appear on the window, how the heck would she know when that crafty little bastard would strike? He has multiple bodies after all. Perhaps, the moment she defends Sayaka, another Kyubey may have contracted Madoka. I believe this is how difficult Homura’s ordeal is. Within every iteration, she had to reestablish herself among the characters, winning their trust or making them hate her in order to prevent them from making choices that would endanger Madoka. She also had to watch over Kyubey since he IS the greatest threat among them all that’s why defending is really hard and in Homura’s case of repeating everything again, it’s just cruel.

      Or Kyuubey doesn’t care and would simply find another world to exploit?

      It would be the greatest irony if Madoka wished for Kyubey and the witches to disappear and the world/universe is saved from entropy. I mean, if Kyubey’s race had the technology to grant wishes, why not make it possible to begin with? Besides, his statement that they don’t have emotions while being ‘concerned’ with entropy and the status of the universe is an emotion in itself.

      Am relieved the folks dear to me are safe but yeah, praying for everyone else in the worse hit areas of the earthquake . JAPAN, GANBATTE!!

      Hope Japan’s nuclear reactor doesn’t go meltdown… Haven’t seen the news recently but from what i’ve heard, there was an explosion there X_X

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      • Keiri
        Mar 18, 2011 @ 22:40:18

        If I were to interpret Homura’s actions (since I kinda understand what she feels), for her, Kaname Madoka is her hero. The one who gave her hope. Not just as a Puella Magi but as a person who accepted her despite all her flaws … For some, the reality that one’s savior is gone may be too much to bear. Just how can Homura continue knowing that her pillar of support just shattered?

        What you mentioned reminded me of another series – Gurren Lagann. The theme there was somewhat similar in the sense of people falling into despair and hopelessness once their symbol of hope was taken away without warning, but those characters were able to move on because they had each other to depend on and no Kyuubey to deliver a sales pitch from hell to them. I guess this could be likened to a country losing a leader e.g. a king who the nation love and revere but they could cope if their government would care for the people on his behalf. For Homura, she had no one else to turn to that time, and her grief and naivety might have impeded her rationality when it came to being offered a wish that sounded too good to be true. Thanks for that excellent insight! It put a lot of things into perspective. 🙂

        I guess that despite knowing that she became a witch in the previous iterations, she was unable to figure out how this would turn out in the current timeline as she is monitoring Madoka. Like that scene where Sayaka confronts Kamijou’s despair only for Kyubey to appear on the window, how the heck would she know when that crafty little bastard would strike?

        That makes sense. There are many possibilities wrt an event becoming true. It’s probably easier for Homura to focus her attention on the most important person in her mission. I guess she did try to indirectly prevent the situation from worsening in a way, like those occasions where she agreed to cooperate with Kyoko to defeat Sayaka, or like that time when she felt compelled to kill Sayaka as an attempt to prevent Madoka from suffering further (Madoka would have considered becoming a Puella Magi to ease and liberate Sayaka from her suffering). Now that I think about it, Homura’s determination really deserves praise, as cruel as it may sound; having the will to employ the most extreme measures to protect another (even measures that included taking the lives of others).

  7. Rei
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 12:10:56

    I didn’t link the Haruhi idea until a few people pointed it out. That’s how much I thought Madoka was it’s own series.
    I’ve been wondering, what happens when a Puella Mage doesn’t fight? Would something bad happen to them if they made a wish and ran? Or would their Soul Gem turn dark over time? It’s weird because if they don’t use magic, their soul won’t get tainted @.@;
    I like the theory of over time, Homura collects Grief Seeds over the time loops, and will be enough to save Madoka from turning into the great Witch.
    Whatever they come up with, I just want to see Kyubey’s face when he doesn’t gain his awesome entropy energy.
    lol @ all the Mami still having her head references, aww. It’s true that although she has outside courage, inside she’s pretty weak. But still was rather surprising to see her snap like that. Poor Kyoko ;A;
    Also, where Homura threw that grenade when they were fighting the floating Witch in the sky with clothes lines…… lmfao. WTF!!
    Megane Homura looks like a mix of Tsubasa Cat and Bungaku Shoujo xD

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    • afkeroge
      Mar 13, 2011 @ 13:40:59

      “I’ve been wondering, what happens when a Puella Mage doesn’t fight? Would something bad happen to them if they made a wish and ran? Or would their Soul Gem turn dark over time? It’s weird because if they don’t use magic, their soul won’t get tainted @.@;”

      If I remember correctly, using magic is not the only way that a Soul Gem can get corrupted. Negative emotions: fear, anger, anxiety, jealousy and despair also contribute to the corruption. As our Mahou Shoujo are still young, we see them experiencing these negtive emotions, they’re human, after all. Thus, the continuous corruption can only be purified through the use of grief seeds.

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    • baka~
      Mar 13, 2011 @ 14:42:45

      I just want to see Kyubey’s face when he doesn’t gain his awesome entropy energy.

      I could imagine Kyubey having that annoyed face in Soul Eater whenever Excalibur would appear

      lol @ all the Mami still having her head references, aww. It’s true that although she has outside courage, inside she’s pretty weak. But still was rather surprising to see her snap like that. Poor Kyoko ;A;

      Yeah, I guess Mami is just trying to keep her calm in the outside in order to not worry her teammates but when push comes to shove, it is surprising that she’s the first one to break down. Perhaps if she didn’t panic, the four of them may have defeated the Walpurgis in that iteration.

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  8. afkeroge
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 13:48:15

    “Hell, if people were moved by that movie, “The Passion of the Christ”, I could imagine a lot of people rolling with tears if SHAFT decided to turn this episode into an hour long movie detailing Homura’s experiences per time loop.”

    It would be nice if there was indeed a movie that did this. I would certainly buy it. Heck, they could even show it internationally. Ultimate self-sacrifices are rarely done this good.

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    • baka~
      Mar 13, 2011 @ 14:39:22

      While the idea of waiting to buy the DVD IS good, as with what Yurippe said from Angel Beats!, people can’t afford to wait for 10 minutes over something… If they decided to turn this into a movie, Japan better be prepared for foreigners coming in heaps just to fall in-line and watch it 😀

      As for international release well… I doubt they’ll feature this in OUR country ;_; and if they did… please, no local dubs… no other foreign dubs… I want my Yuuki Aoi and Chiwa Saito emotions raw

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      • afkeroge
        Mar 13, 2011 @ 14:43:00

        I’ll fly to Japan and watch it myself!

        Nah, I can’t. I’m still a freshman in university, so I doubt that will happen. Also, plane fares are a nightmare for me. I’d rather save the money to buy the figures and DVD’s.

  9. baka~
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 14:47:27

    Worst case is somebody pirates the movie like with Disappearance of Haruhi… ugh… eye cancer X_X

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    • afkeroge
      Mar 13, 2011 @ 14:51:59

      Piracy is so rampant in our country that even the authorities can’t fully control it anymore. and the worse part of it is that it kills the possibility of many good anime to be shown here. I still have hope that TV5 can get some more anime rolling, but given that the put Wiling Willie on the primetime slot, they sure are ungrateful. After all, anime and cartoons are what made TV5 watchable in the first place.

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  10. baka~
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 15:02:57

    I think it’s a trend for our local stations. Remember when GMA 7 featured different anime every night starting with Lupin III to Escaflowne then slowly reduced the number of anime aired until it was replaced by crappy local fantasy-drama? Or ABS-CBN featuring quality anime every afternoon only to be taken over by Korean soap opera or variations of Hana Yori Dango? This is just how ungrateful our local TV companies are… They feed on the interests of the young viewers then switches their menu to suit the likes of teens and adults, throwing away the very foundation that supported them… orz

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  11. afkeroge
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 15:58:34

    It’s really sad to see how TV entertainment is here. I remember those times when I was still in elementary, people are talking about these anime and even made children’s street games based on them. And more recently, TV5 gained so much popularity from airing the likes of Toradora!, Shakugan no Shana, Special A and Haruhi. Apparently, advertisement just doesn’t think that airing anime is profitable, just because the “surveys” they conduct always ask the more elderly and common people, rather than the more numerous youth who have at least some taste.

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  12. baka~
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 21:47:58

    I guess TV stations are simply keeping up the momentum where teens = raving fanboys/fangirls that would feast over korean/japanese pop icons landing on korean/jap drama. Let’s face it, there is more market there as they can invite the actual persons to do a show or attend a local live broadcasting. Whereas in anime, they see no profit at all. I even doubt they’d have the balls to promote a holographic miku concert here ~_~

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  13. afkeroge
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 23:29:15

    I think most Filipinos are open-minded enough to accept foreign influences. Heck, we have been doing so for the past 450 years. It’s just that TV stations seem to think that anime is only for kids and can never replace crappy live action series. Just look at Marian Rivera’s latest show in GMA. Bampirella? That’s one of the stupidest things to have hit TV history. I mean, come on… I’m already sick and tired of vampires ever since Castlevania. Me and my roommate at the university dorms were practically sorry for Marian and we’re shouting at the screen for the network’s blatant attempt to make another crappy show. I think what this country needs is something like PMMM, and hope that it doesn’t get a bad response from the church. I think that’s what prevented Index from being aired here.

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  14. baka~
    Mar 13, 2011 @ 23:56:20

    I was actually glad that TV 5 was able to show code geass mostly uncensored… never thought they had the balls to show that thing in all its glory and brutality but the dubbing sucks… that’s another issue though. well, going back to local drama, I guess it can’t be helped… most corporations are patterned after the western mindset. when twilight and harry potter became a hit, they made a localized version of it… *facepalm*

    as for PMMM being aired in our country, I don’t like the idea… Only a few local dubbers have the voice quality to play out the characters and I seriously don’t want this anime butchered by such mediocre performance. At the least, the anime that this country needs is Evangelion and Death Note uncut on a primetime schedule to boot 😀

    If they can manage to play those anime without religious protests rallying the streets then perhaps, there is hope for our form of media…

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  15. Nopy
    Mar 14, 2011 @ 06:37:08

    I don’t think Homura can go back and help herself in that timeline. The reason being that it seems like everytime she goes back, she returns to her body in that time. The only difference is she remembers that happened in the previous cycles, so there can never be two Homuras.

    I also found it interesting how Madoka gets stronger with each cycle. In the first couple of timelines, she was barely able to defeat Walpurgis Night, while in one of the later ones, she defeated it in one shot. Having Homura go back in time could all be a part of Kyubey’s plan to extract more energy from Madoka.

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  16. baka~
    Mar 14, 2011 @ 08:41:32

    The only difference is she remembers that happened in the previous cycles

    aside from that, there were timelines were some of the characters were not Puella Magi. such as Kyouko only appearing during the 3rd iteration or none of the characters became Puella Magi during the 4th. Like I mentioned, Homura’s case of time travel may even resemble that of Dragon Ball’s Trunks that perhaps, her very reason for time travelling changed the situation of certain iterations… this is purely theoretical though orz

    Having Homura go back in time could all be a part of Kyubey’s plan to extract more energy from Madoka.

    Regardless is everything was according to keikaku, all Kyubey can do was grant wishes and collect used up Grief Seeds so it doesn’t matter imo if Homura was part of that plan. What matters was that Homura wished for te impossible yet most beneficial method for the collection process.

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