Umineko No Naku Koro Ni Finale: ehhh… huh?

wow, it ended! YAY! or not!

everything. felt. retardedly. rushed.

battler’s theories were good but he seemed desperate in jamming all of it in beato’s gut. it’s like he got some power up after being inspired by ange then spammed beato with random thoughts. the best part of it was, beato didn’t even fight back. she just accepted it masochistically as her body was impaled and she bathed in blood. if that was the case, i liked her battle against virgilia more. at least she fought back in that episode. that aside, we get to see the true masterminds in this fiasco. i guess they were really that bored to fuck up with people’s lives. honestly, i’m pissed at how they treated ange like a worthless piece that was meant to die.

despite the truth in her role, it still pisses me off! it’s like how beato pisses off battler! if there would be a season 2 i hope battler gets to face his true enemies, that being lambda and bern and end his issues with beato. i would also like to know more as to why beato was giving a fit the entire finale and the real deal behind battler’s origins.

the series overall was enjoyable. the powerhouse cast gave me tons of laughs and we get to see the bloom of some newbie seiyus. some reasoning and application of logic were outrageous but it fits the entertainment purpose of the anime.

with the series ending and the possibility of a 2nd season far off in the distant future, guess i’ll be taking my sweet time and wait until Dance in the Vampire Bund and Seikon no Qwaser airs. depending on who blogs what, i may or may not be blogging anything this season… but i have my sights firmly fixed on seikon since im a pikasha fan and the VA cast seems solid and i’ve been reading the translated manga of this series.

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8 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Keiri
    Dec 27, 2009 @ 16:44:14

    i just can’t help but think ‘dirty’ upon seeing this… X_X

    OI!! LOLOLOLOL XD

    Couldn’t agree more with what you said regarding the finale feeling rushed. I was similarly annoyed at Beatrice for not fighting back. Ever since the few episodes back, I can’t help but think all she wanted to do was forfeit or not participate in the game at all. First she claimed Battler wasn’t qualified, then she seemed gung-ho to make him submit and later gets impaled over and over again for not trying to voice her opinions, and the next thing you know, she’s begging Battler to finish her off. It’s like she doesn’t care about the game anymore and just wanted to die. And one of the most WTF aspects of it? Lambda said nearly all of Battler’s blue truths were wrong! Beato didn’t even try countering it with red! >_>

    Yeah, no matter how you look at it, a Season 2 seems inevitable. Plus, there are a lot of loopholes that haven’t been solved. But all in all, it has been a fun series. It’s another one which requires viewers to think and speculate on what they see. Psychological shows are always good, whether they’re done on an outrageous level or not.

    Ah yes, most of the winter shows start the week after. Will you be blogging Qwaser every now and then if you’re not reviewing it regularly? I haven’t decided whether to read the manga or not for concern of watching something that is inferior to the original and it spoils the fun. :/

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  2. baka~
    Dec 27, 2009 @ 17:34:30

    Lambda said nearly all of Battler’s blue truths were wrong! Beato didn’t even try countering it with red! >_>

    yeah, all of beato’s red counters are shallow. even making kinzo appear inthe form of a dragon doesn’t prove decent shit.

    Psychological shows are always good, whether they’re done on an outrageous level or not.

    agree. it’s fun to make the viewers think and anticipate once in awhile, assuming the viewers are literally sucked in on the thrill and mystery.

    Will you be blogging Qwaser every now and then if you’re not reviewing it regularly? I haven’t decided whether to read the manga or not for concern of watching something that is inferior to the original and it spoils the fun. :/

    assuming the vids released are not in H264 or any high aspect ratio, then i’ll be blogging it. i haven’t read far from the manga since this rarely gets translated but the anime may encourage translators to haul ass. every chapter is around 30-50 pages long so if you’re not fond of reading long-chaptered mangas then let’s just wait for the anime. hopefully they remain faithful :p

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  3. Keiri
    Dec 29, 2009 @ 01:33:04

    even making kinzo appear inthe form of a dragon doesn’t prove decent shit

    Ugh… That was a horrid sh!tty move by Deen in all honesty. >_>

    hopefully they remain faithful

    I guess for this, I’ll rely on your reading experience and assessment of the series. Most likely I won’t be blogging Qwaser due to lack of time (Railgun is enough to keep me occupied for the week), I’ll at least give my comments on what I watch. Maybe it’ll be interesting to compare notes between a manga reader and an Anime-only viewer.

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  4. baka~
    Dec 29, 2009 @ 01:59:27

    Maybe it’ll be interesting to compare notes between a manga reader and an Anime-only viewer.

    as if our railgun discussions were no different :p

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  5. violinkit
    Jan 04, 2010 @ 23:46:42

    Oh wow…this…

    To think I was looking forward to this scene ;__; The fanmade ending really made me expect too much. What at terrible episode – it seemed to nitpick the most unimportant aspects of the show and leave out everything that made it fantastic…

    First off, the music: I cannot comprehend why they would utilize anime originals when they have such easy access to such an amazing variety of music from the VN.

    Second: WTF is with Dragon Kinzo? Like seriously, fine! if you want to artistically interpret or spice up some scenes, but that little bit of transformation really made me feel like the budget for this entire series really were sunk in A. BLOOD SPILLING B. Voice Actors (COMPLETELY WASTED) and C. DRAGON KINZO.

    I guess I hoped it would do the game justice, but it really doesn’t. Do find time to read the source material!

    As for your gripe with Beato’s red being shallow – the ending credits of the show talked a little about it but is hardly convincing, but the general idea is that she threw the game because she gives up playing, and was never really “in it to win” to begin with. The overall impression from animesuki and source material seems to imply that Beato is trying to help Battler solve a puzzle by posing as the antagonist, though he is ultimately too dense to solve it (until the most recent episode anyway).

    It is also truly tragic at how they managed to so successfully bastardize such an emotionally charged scene, as well as Battler’s character. He is a completely different entity from the one in the game – there is no relation! I hate to sound like one of those people that are always like “OMG THE BOOK WAS SO MUCH BETTER” but in this case, the Deen adaptation truly failed to meet passing grade. It took all the worse parts of the VN, and sunk all their budget into it, i.e. the magic scenes. The storytelling was bareboned, and lacking heart.

    And that final point is I think what made the game for me. Sure there is a lot of interesting mysteries to consider, but what made it endearing is how the puzzles and over the top storytelling were always handled with care, detail and much love from the creator. Ryuukishi has fun twisting the screws in our mindsets and making us gasp and go WTF, and then plummet into NOOOO before crying in awe at the gar.

    I guess all I can say is….goddamn it.

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  6. baka~
    Jan 05, 2010 @ 04:16:43

    fanmade ending really made me expect too much

    i guess i should’ve expected something like the ending of this series as fanmade. but which parts of this episode stuck with the original? i could assume ange dying and how she died were the real thing

    I cannot comprehend why they would utilize anime originals when they have such easy access to such an amazing variety of music from the VN.

    didn’t actually notice the music part. oddly enough, umineko’s BGMs don’t stand out to me. was the game BGMs that better/noticeable?

    Voice Actors (COMPLETELY WASTED)

    if you’re talking about hiring VAs only to have them say lines that’s mostly along “GAAAAH!” or “WRAAAAH!” then i kinda agree. i don’t think it’s a good idea to have good VAs like rikiya koyama to say a few lines then just drop dead. but some VAs are actually good like sayaka ohara and daisuke ono (if i might say, he’s annoying and retarded in his role as battler)

    Beato is trying to help Battler solve a puzzle by posing as the antagonist, though he is ultimately too dense to solve it (until the most recent episode anyway).

    so.. beato didn’t make a deal with lamda for her to play the game and continue having her powers as a witch? (i think this was referenced in one episode)

    instead, beato has an ulterior motive as to why she does those things?

    now that’s kinda interesting knowing how she etched the role of being a bitch in my mind :p

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  7. violinkit
    Jan 08, 2010 @ 14:38:12

    Oh my god, the BGM is SO GOOD. Remember that scene with Battler and Beatrice in the final show down? It’s raining, and Ange had just been killed. Battler is fueled with fury, and they are standing amongst a garden of roses, and this song starts playing.

    And the battle begins! How great is that *A* The anime uses a lot of anime original music that is not present in the game, and one of the great strengths about the game really is the way it sets up the atmosphere, and that includes how well the music is composed. Check it out!

    As for what bits followed the game – the anime followed the game religiously, but it hacked and chopped gigantic portions out of it, and tried to focus on the game board and gore more than where the real meat of the story was at – the back and forth between Beatrice and Battler.

    In retrospect, I try not to fault the anime too much – they did deliver on a purty Beato and saucy Luci after all. Something as big as Umineko is difficult to adapt, and unlike Higurashi, there are a lot less blatant “slice of life” moments to lift the mood. Instead, we have to be serious business 100% of the time about so many issues that a lot of the fun is left out. Battler for example, is actually a very fun loving guy in the game, and much more sympathetic than his anime counter part. He is human like the rest of us, and sheds many many tears, sometimes too much, but we forgive him because he’s able to stand back up and confront his enemy.

    But the anime Battler’s just a whiny bitch.

    As for Beato and lambda – Beato is forced to play the game, by Lambda, but it’s commonly acknowledged now since the end of Episode 5 that Beato had been trying to help Battler solve the game all along. When the game became too hard in episode 2, she let up and gave him the red truths, and adjusted the game so as to aid Battler in solving the puzzle. In fact, this is guarranteed by red truths by Virgilia. So it is important to note how Beato’s game works, because she has a particular pattern about the way she does things that she tweaks each time to help Battler.

    READ THE VN! READ IT! READ IT!

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  8. Raecrisos
    Feb 21, 2011 @ 23:10:38

    Hi, guys. I like the reviews 🙂 I don’t have much thoughts to write now and to here I would like to say…there is a continuation as expected ..it air in 2011 (Summer Anime List) a second season of umineko.

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